probably both in universieurope united states. that keeps the action going. >> is that a good thing, don? what do you think about that? is it a good thing we're seeing such momentum in this market ahead of the fed policy, ahead of any of the policy coming out of any international central banks? >> what it does have is a very good effect from the standpoint of mr. obama because, although -- well, people say the unemployment number was terrible, so that's bad for obama. all the polls show that if the s&p 500 is doing really well, that the people out there tends to be more tolerant of some bad economic numbers. on the other hand, if the s&p is cratering and we're getting bad unemployment numbers, then that's good news for mr. romney. >> september and october typically are volatile periods for this market. some tough times right now. ron, one of the expectations is that the fed may add liquidity, but they may also extend the period of time that the fed will keep rates low for that period of time. maybe into 2015 is the expectation. is